tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post1191828043343329758..comments2023-10-30T05:45:18.219-04:00Comments on Bronx News Network: Live Blogging From Armory IDA Hearing: Tax Breaks Approved, Land Use Review to BeginBronx News Networkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03022201181076163457noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-33635837993840301732009-03-12T10:15:00.000-04:002009-03-12T10:15:00.000-04:00Garry, let's not be so pessimistic. There are plen...Garry, let's not be so pessimistic. There are plenty of people who will be eager to work at the Armory once development is complete. Let's not forget the teens, people seeking a little extra on the side part time, seniors who may not want to just stay home and others who might not be looking for their dream job just yet. I totally see where you are coming from , but let's not overlook these groups.Richie Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11820844910480323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-66150458992150120272009-03-12T01:37:00.000-04:002009-03-12T01:37:00.000-04:00and let me add that on a national level it's becom...and let me add that on a national level it's become clear that tax breaks for big corps like related do not stimulate the economy as you suggest. in fact, we have all learned that this manner of business on all levels has essentially ruined our economy. <BR/><BR/>and so with this opportunity to set the concept right, the message needed to be sent that if you want to get tax breaks, which is in essence a donation from every one of us, and build in our community, then you need to be prepared to be a full partner with the community.<BR/><BR/>unfortunately, now that the tax breaks have been given, there's no further leverage to negotiate the best deal for bronxites.GAX in the Bronxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679122512214606513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-16400295135719386012009-03-12T01:25:00.000-04:002009-03-12T01:25:00.000-04:00follow the money. yyou talk about bronxites shopp...follow the money. y<BR/><BR/>you talk about bronxites shopping and eating there. that's bronxites SPENDING their money, not making the money. and if there's no CBA, who would be MAKING the money?<BR/><BR/>also, if there's not a proper CBA, then projects like this might not benefit the people of the bronx and we're past the time that we can simply hope. we need contractual assurances.<BR/><BR/>and you say that bronxires will be working on the construction... first of all, without a CBA, that's a dream you've made up because those jobs will be filled by union members who, the numbers clearly indicate, are NOT people from the Bronx. and second of all, construction jobs are nice for temporary work, but are not the kinds of jobs that management and other store jobs will REALLY stimulate the local economy and provide Bronxites with wages that will feed their families. <BR/><BR/>bottom line, if there's a proper agreement, there's a better chance that the people of the bronx will benefit and that's my interest.GAX in the Bronxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679122512214606513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-4303817789016891302009-03-11T22:54:00.000-04:002009-03-11T22:54:00.000-04:00So Bronx residents wouldn't shop/eat there? No Br...So Bronx residents wouldn't shop/eat there? No Bronx residents would work there? You just sound foolish, GAX. You can't dictate unreal standards for development. This is not "dumping" on the Bronx. Dumping is when something goes in a place when the place really doesn't want or need it. If/when the Armory opens for business, it will be packed with Bronx residents taking advantage of the new shopping options beyond 99 cent stores and bodegas, and there will be many Bronx residents WORKING in the stores and prior to that in the construction...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-3212859134191371912009-03-11T21:58:00.000-04:002009-03-11T21:58:00.000-04:00it is indeed dumping on the bronx if the jobs you ...it is indeed dumping on the bronx if the jobs you talk about go to people who are not residents of the bronx and/or are for below livable wages. tragically, that has been the recent history on large-scale projects like these. <BR/><BR/>Bronx communities bear the significant burdens the construction brings, but don't share in the most significant benefits. THAT's what this is about.GAX in the Bronxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679122512214606513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-69698684277295752522009-03-11T14:24:00.000-04:002009-03-11T14:24:00.000-04:00Is this really "dumping" on the Bronx? It's not l...Is this really "dumping" on the Bronx? It's not like they're trying to build a toxic waste plant or a prison. All this NIMBY nonsense is anti-development and anti-progress. KARA should be happy that people are willing to invest money in the area. What is so dastardly about a shopping mall and maybe (gasp!) some decent grocery options? The state of NY and the federal government already have 'minimum wage' regulations. How can KARA think they have the right to dictate what a minimum wage can be? They are not a legislative body, nor an executive body that can enforce such minimums. Full steam ahead. Let's get some people to work building and then working in the Armory ASAP. We jobs in this country - not vacant projects.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-20111117283859816072009-03-11T13:39:00.000-04:002009-03-11T13:39:00.000-04:00so the leverage is gone and all the eggs are in th...so the leverage is gone and all the eggs are in the developer's basket, leaving community advocates in the position of having to beg for inclusion and fairness, yet again.<BR/><BR/>unfortunately, recent history has shown that when this is the case, the developer goes about its merry way unimpeded. at this point, why would anyone expect that this armory project will be any different?<BR/><BR/>this is a sad commentary on community self-determination in the city of ny and in the bronx in particular.<BR/><BR/>gee, it sure seems a few lifetimes ago that the 'don't dump on the bronx' campaign was launched, doesn't it?GAX in the Bronxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13679122512214606513noreply@blogger.com