tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post4127482637959547305..comments2023-10-30T05:45:18.219-04:00Comments on Bronx News Network: Fight Over Worship at Schools Puts Bronx Church in SpotlightBronx News Networkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03022201181076163457noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-1955333236879767512011-06-17T09:43:18.567-04:002011-06-17T09:43:18.567-04:00I belong to a congregation that is lucky enough to...I belong to a congregation that is lucky enough to have a space of our own. I do think that our worship changes the space in a way that Boy Scout meeting would not, so I understand the city's point of view. On the other hand, I can sympathize with these congregations' need for space. I don't think that we can fulfill our need/obligation for prayer and worship by joining just any old church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-45741084087705272272011-06-16T22:58:52.568-04:002011-06-16T22:58:52.568-04:00I don't think that they can really cry discrim...I don't think that they can really cry discrimination based on the fact that non-religious groups (e.g. Boy Scouts) are allowed to use the space. Were it a question of a group of one religion being granted access while they were not, then there would arguably be discrimination at work. However, the decision to refrain from allowing ANY religious group does not discriminate based upon religion, it merely maintains separation between the school system and any religious group or denomination, as it should.<br /><br />That this group chose to 'found' a church without having adequate space available is irrelevant to the question of their right to access. As I've seen on buttons and bumper stickers, 'Your lack of planning does not constitute my emergency.' In other words, their lack of space to worship does not seem to give them any kind of special entitlement to access. While it is indeed unfortunate that they have been unable to procure an appropriate space, perhaps the members of this group should take this into account in their consideration of whether the leader of the group is indeed qualified to lead such an organization.RavenMoonhttp://raven_moon.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-25042067488443345852011-06-16T20:38:45.893-04:002011-06-16T20:38:45.893-04:00There is nothing in the constitution that speaks a...There is nothing in the constitution that speaks about the so called "separation of church and state". As a matter of fact, the constitution basically says that the State should not get in the way of the "church". The revisionist are trying to change the intention of what the founding father's intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-15096441814373987462011-06-16T17:09:10.606-04:002011-06-16T17:09:10.606-04:00Oh dear me...why don't they just go to a churc...Oh dear me...why don't they just go to a church in the neighborhood? Why do they feel compelled to create their own new church? Sounds very narcissistic to me....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-23196662507142910192011-06-16T16:22:41.365-04:002011-06-16T16:22:41.365-04:00Also an atheist, and let me put it this way.
If t...Also an atheist, and let me put it this way. <br />If the school rents out space, then someone is paying money, if money is scarce and this could supplement tax money from coming from the tax payer then great, but if its an excuse for favoritism then it is a vary bad idea...The Boy Scouts rent public buildings (for a dollar-bad idea), Farmers Markets rent school parking lots (for $100.00 good idea)<br /><br />We are all human's (with out slandering)so lets work for the good of all, and not just some!<br /><br />Thank you for listing-JoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-6615536258282686962011-06-16T14:05:48.847-04:002011-06-16T14:05:48.847-04:00I'm an Athiest, and even I don't think the...I'm an Athiest, and even I don't think the church renting the school on Sundays for worship service violates the 1st ammendment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-55226602511637016342011-06-16T14:00:32.888-04:002011-06-16T14:00:32.888-04:00Good decision. We need freedom from religion and t...Good decision. We need freedom from religion and that's what the founding father's of this nation stood up for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-50654649870700076852011-06-16T13:11:02.805-04:002011-06-16T13:11:02.805-04:00This is a close one. I'd have to say that at ...This is a close one. I'd have to say that at some point public facilities have to be simply be off limits for religious purposes.<br /><br />It's not the group at issue, it is the function they are using the public facilities for and the separation clause must be upheld. Teachers cannot initiate religious functions, even after school is out. So I see no problem prohibiting outside interests from initiating religious functions as well. Students, for whom the school was built, can do so. This is part of their socialization, and as long as all faiths or non-faiths are given equal access this is all fine.<br /><br />Now as an example, if this group wanted to use the school for an food bank or clothing bank outreach program that would directly serve the public's interest and they should for sure be allowed the use of facilities. But, their 'evangelizing' during such events should be limited to informing any patrons of the groups beliefs and other activities...not full-on proselytizing.Dave Thompsonhttp://www.facebook.com/FreeSoftwareDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6850750806594927202.post-26870751999157939882011-06-15T18:46:02.829-04:002011-06-15T18:46:02.829-04:00These churches are being discriminated. Any other...These churches are being discriminated. Any other group is allowed to meet, except them. This is not what the founding fathers of this nation had in mind. Where is tolerance that these liberal city officials talk about? Sad day in this nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com