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Thursday, July 2, 2009

For the Record: Fernando Cabrera Opens Up His Home, Talks About Switching Political Parties

Fernando Cabrera at his apartment on Sedgwick Avenue. Photos by Ashley Villarreal.

Many people have been talking, and talking loudly about Fernando Cabrera, who's running to replace Maria Baez as the Council Member for District 14.

Does he actually live in the Bronx? Is he really a Democrat?

Northwest Bronx residents are understandably wary given the recent and unpopular actions of State Senator Pedro Espada, Jr., a Democrat by name only whose support of Republican leadership is effectively paralyzing Albany.

Much has been made of the fact that Espada claims to live in a Bedford Park condo but appears to spend the bulk of his time at his home in Mamaroneck. Espada's Westchester County home is just a 10-minute car ride north, but local residents say his actions (and inactions) in Albany show he's out of touch with the needs of his Bronx constituents.

But yesterday, as he opened up his freezer and then fridge to offer me an ice cold soda, Cabrera assured the Bronx News Network that he, his wife and teenage son live in this apartment on Sedgwick Avenue, near 197th Street. Inside the ice box are leftovers in Tupperware and bags of frozen tamales made by his Mexican wife.

Cabrera says they moved in last July from Pelham, a suburburban town just northeast of the Bronx. Just two months later, Cabrera announced his intention to run in the 14th District Council race. Cabrera says he still owns a home in Pelham, but that his daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren live there.

Trying to set the record straight, I toured the bathroom, bedroom, kitchen, and living space, scouring for evidence of a quick move-in, such as the one neighbors claimed Espada did in preparation for a media visit. (He showed up the night before with vacation bags and suitcases.)

Cabrera's new Bronx digs appear legit.

Toothpaste stains on the mirror, a son's bruised drum kit and a baby crib, which Cabrera said is used for visits from his grandson, were all evidence in his favor.


Cabrera, a Mercy College professor, also boasts he is on the advisory board for the building complex, and he seems to be on a first-name basis with the building's super.

Bronxites are also concerned Cabrera may not really be a Democrat. Up until last year, he was a registered Republican. He doesn't deny this. However, Cabrera, the pastor of New Life International Outreach Church on Morris Avenue, said he recently switched parties to sympathize with what he says are values more in line with his lifestyle.

"When I started to re-analyze the work I've done for the past 20 years and started to see the platform the Democratic Party has, I saw myself with the Democratic Party," said Cabrera, as he talked to me on couches in the seemingly lived-in common area he shares with his son, a Columbia University student studying English and computer science.

Cabrera, who is backed by the Bronx Democratic Party and the left-leaning Working Families Party, said what really made for the switch was the work he has done over the years -- counseling teens, being an educator and as a Community Board 7 member (2004-2006) -- that all align with the values Democrats put on social issues.

All the political leaders that came to his church, Cabrera said, were Democratic. And let's not forget new President Barack Obama, who Cabrera says he voted for and who also played a role in inspiring the former Republican to switch parties. "What I love about the Democratic Party is that they're a party of inclusion," he said.



The decision may have been momentous, but Fernando Aquino, Cabrera's campaign consultant, said Cabrera's decision is not that uncommon. "He's not the first person to be a Republican and then a Democrat," Aquino said. "A lot of people decide what they're going to be when they were young, or they have a parent that is and then later they realize they aren't."

Cabrera joked, "There is someone a lot of people might not remember: Hillary Clinton, she was a Republican and now look at how she's represented now, she's very proud of the fact that she is (a Democrat)."

For now, District 14 will continue to give Cabrera more careful scrutiny in the weeks leading up to the election. To learn more about Cabrera's positions, visit his Website.

For the record, Cabrera says he supports civil unions for homosexuals but not legal marriage (same as Obama); he supports abortion only in cases of rape or violence (unlike Obama who is decidedly pro-choice); he is a proponent of saving affordable housing; he supports more funding to help welfare recipients; and he doesn't think there is enough hunting being done in the Bronx to warrant some of its residents' gun collections.

We'll have a little more on all this in the next issue of the Norwood News -- it hits the streets and the Web on July 9.

110 comments:

  1. I smell victory, this is why he has my vote because he didn't hide anything.

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  2. I'm really glad Cabrera responded and set the record straight. This is good news.

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  3. Fernando Cabrera is hardworking bronxite. He was born in the Bronx, owns an apartment in the Bronx, built a church in the Bronx. For more than 20 years had worked in the schools, the shelters, withthe youth, with victims of drug adiction...all in the Bronx. He is clearly the best choice among the candidates for district 14. Let's please raise the bar and start talking about the issues. Non of the candidates are better prepare than Cabrera to do that.

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  4. Thanks Norwood news for setting the record straight, now lets move on and start talking about real issues like; health care, housing, education, etc. In 8 years Maria Baez has done nothing for this community, she should be defeated.

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  5. This is what I call a 5 star, fair and ethical reporting. Cabrera deserves an apology from Yudelka, but it is highly doubtful that she will.

    This reporting confirms what I suspected, Cabrera is real and a man of integrity. Cabrera got my vote!

    Ps. Ashley, your reporting was fair and balance.

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  6. AWESOME ARTICLE!!! OUTSTANDING!! I hope this calms the critics down a bit...

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  7. Cabrera, you keep pushing forward. You are doing the right thing. We NEED you!

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  8. Fernando Cabrera is the man for the moment. He is well educated with a proven leadership. No wonder the Bronx Democratic Party, Working Family Party and the unions are standing with him. Good choice Chairman Carl Heastie!

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  9. UMMMMMM where are all the Yudelka/Maria Baez supporters.....cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket!

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  10. TO ALL Anonymous bloggers: (At least the cabrera supporting ones.):

    Lets keep things level.. there was enough bashing and babble in the last post.. just enjoy the article and put the knives down...:) Figuratively of course..

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  11. It is absolutely amazing that the Yudelka/Baez supporters are quiet. Hypocritical when Yudelka/Baez openly supported Nelson Castro who was an ex-republican (and a convicted criminal). Now lets focus on the issues since this distraction has been duly dealt with. The silence is golden!

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  12. Let's move forward into victory Cabrera supporters. This is what Cabrera would want. Let's put all our energy into this positive campaign Fernando Cabrera is leading.

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  13. http://westsidebx.blogspot.com

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  14. I just love this article look how my Cabrera handle himself. I love you Cabrera I just can't wait for victory. Now Let's Win Big

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  15. SO let me get this straight..he moves into the Bronx a year ago and two months later declares his candidacy, and at the same time switches from Republican (after 10 years) to democrat. Seems to me he only did all this to run or city council...so now we have import candidates to serve the district? There are no democratic candidates that have lived in the district and have been democrats for more than a year?? Maybe not Maria or Yudelka...but this is all we have...and import?

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  16. And Honesty would have been being straight about it last year when he declared..not now when he was busted....

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  17. The Yudelka people still don't get it. By the way, where is the apology from Yudelka? I meant to say apologie(s)?

    Cabrera has been straight up all the way through. This is an exciting time, we are finally going to get honest and effective leadership.

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  18. Count down on Yudelka apology

    Lets see how long it takes Yudelka to issue an Apology .

    By my Count this is Day 2

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  19. What a slap in the face to Yudelka. She deserved it for going in front of his daughter's home protesting. She's garbage.

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  20. LOL. This "article" is not worthy of commenting. This is "professional journalism" and it has misspellings.

    Ms. Villareal, I sincerely hope you don't aspire to work for the Times, because based on this, you have A LOT of work to do.

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  21. O GET A LIFE AND SHUT THE HELL UP you can't do a better job at reporting

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  22. I agree on the comment above, this article is far from professional journalism, but this is not what this post is about. I have been staying out of this conversation to make sure that I had both sides of the argument. At this point I can say things about both Tapia and Cabrera's camp.

    Mr. Cabrera-
    -You touch on the switching parties but I do not know why you were not open about this in the beginning.
    -You take pictures in an apartment that looks like a studio and I find it really hard to believe that you would move from a big house in Pelham, NY to such a small apartment to share with your wife and son.

    Ms. Tapia-
    -It was a bit overboard to go to Cabrera's home in Pelhman, NY and protest in front of his house.
    - I am still not clear as to where you got all your facts from regarding Mr. Cabrera being a Republican.

    I love that this will be a tough choice for me and for many Bronx residents. It is important that we all get involved no matter who we vote for. But I don't feel too good knowing that Mr. Cabrera lived in another town so at this point I will be supporting Ms. Tapia.

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  23. Don't be rude. This article if funny.

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  24. I feel that this political leader is not for the people of the Bronx.I believe he is the type of leader who does not care about the people, but cares more for his name and how people see him.

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  25. The Problem with dog an pony show is that someone else beat Mr. Cabrera to it. Inviting a reporter to your second residence seem a bit odd, if Ms. Tapia's allegations were not correct. Perhaps the same reporter should check with the NY State Board of Election and check the date when Cabrera changed his Party? You need to be enrolled in a Party one full year, before collecting petitions.

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  26. Hmmmm ....it is not a year, a change in registration becomes effective after a general election.

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  27. Where you vote and people's affiliation is public info. How can we be so happy of someone who left the Bronx so long ago, have the never lived in the district he wishes to reprenset before. This is so out touch, it looks to me like a reality show. Come and See my house to show that I live here...please....more in touch wiht your reality.

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  28. Glady Yudelka Tapia was brave enough to bring the truth to light. Had not Yudelka brought the truth to light and uncovered about his residency and his switching of party, we would have never had seen pictures of his son's apartments.

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  29. Real People's Representation in da BronxJuly 3, 2009 at 11:01:00 PM EDT

    So...there's truth to the "allegations" since he SO desperately had to have someone write an article about his "second" residency in the Bronx, and in a district he has never lived before. SHAME ON YOU CABRERA!

    And about Karen's point: it's then very clear that Cabrera is still a Republican since he has not been registered for a full year.

    I said it before and I said it again. MY DISTRICT IS NOT FOR SALE TO A REPUBLICAN WHO PRETENDS TO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IS REALLY FROM WESTCHESTER, ESPADA'S COUNTY AND THE SECOND RICHEST IN THE NY STATE.

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  30. Real People's Representation of Da BronxJuly 4, 2009 at 12:27:00 AM EDT

    DEFINITION OF DECEIVER: Someone who leads you to believe something that is NOT true.

    DEFINITION OF CABRERA: (SEE DECEIVER ABOVE)(more particularly in 2008 during a parade and other encounters. From last summer until yesterday at 11:45am to be exact.)

    CABRERA = ESPADA = DECEIVER (As you can see, based on behavioral partterns, these three above are synonyms.)
    Except that the first one is more dangerous and more severe that the others two, since it likes hiding until it's discovered. The first behavior, Cabrera, is particular of Repubicans who are opportunistic and two faces, htey love representing communities they have never lived before.)

    Warnings: Do not trust anyone with this behavior or patterns under any circumstances, it might be contagious, since they like offering money and meeting with community groups to convince them to support them since they are not known in the community they pretend to represent.

    Very capitalist at heart.

    It is also very common of them of having two residences as well as condon in the Bronx, even if they do not live in it.

    Suggestions:
    Stay away from them.

    Do not trust anybody related to them neither any articles written on their behalves.

    VERY IMPORTANT:
    Do not vote for them since they would show their true colors later on as REPUBLICANS that they are.

    Do not believe them since they suffer from change of heart, so change of heart could happen at any given moment in their life span and many times.

    Do not let their emotional speeches convince you since they are not genuine.

    *****Please call upon them immediately if you see anybody with this behavior, they might get upset and mad at the beginning, and do a lot of postings, but they would later recognize it, and only if they are grateful, they would thank you for it.

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  31. You guys need to understand that cabrera is the person to vote for all you people who are saying all these negative comments don't know cabrera you are just going by what u hear or what they tell u but if you knew how honest and wonderful this guy is you will vote for him to. Fernando took time to actually walk through the streets with a group of people to fight for a library that close down to make it a youth center to keep children from streets, to provide jobs, ged programs, tutors, ect. That is what we need a person to step into place and fight for us we don't need a person like maria who doesn't show she care or like ms tapia who is scared to lose a battle and brings false remarks listen this is about us and how it will benefit us has the people and trust me right now cabrera is not thinking about making false remarks or saying any negative about anyone he is actually working hard to do it the right way that's why he has my vote

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  32. Fernando Cabrera is not from here! Plain and simple! It is very elitist of him to think he can move back here SOLELY for the purpose of running for office! There is absolutely no other reason for him to move from a nice house in Pelham to a small apartmant in the Bronx.

    He is very fortunate to have been successful and able to provide a better life for his family; that is the American dream. Most of us dream of owning a home in a nice town to raise our children in. We are in these poor neighborhoods because we NO CHOICE. Don't mock us by coming back.

    Cabrera your actions go against logic and our principle of upward mobility. We vote Democratic because we want to tax the rich; you voted Republican because you didn't more taxes.

    You don't belong here. We are poor and many of us are uneducated but we are not fools.

    You would be hard-pressed to find ONE voter in this district who would vote for Cabrera after they know that he has lived here for less than one year and was a republican 10 months ago.

    So that is where my efforts will lie, in spreading the truth about the dishonest reverend.

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  33. Real People's Representation in Da BronxJuly 4, 2009 at 9:17:00 AM EDT

    I support your opinion anonymous above.

    There's numerous community activisits doing far more than Cabrera in this community, they truly live in the community in the daily basis longer than Cabrera, and they have not hidden any facts about them nor are trying to fool the Bronx Residents.

    The real community activists have organized and been in so many marches, have travelled to Albany so many times, have proposed good policies to better the city, they fight for better schools, more resources, been in marches against Domestic violence and racisms, more employments and better environmetal laws for the Bronx

    It takes more than sympathy and marching out for just one cause or work in the city to run for office. It takes more than good intentions to represent one of the poorest districts in the state.

    This is why Cabrera DOES NOT have my vote. Good Intentions are not enough.

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  34. Lucy, please tell Cabrera that the "right way" is not done by moving here to an opportunity he saw in District #14 and changing party and kee it to himself.

    We, Residents, from district #14 are tired of outsiders wanting to come and run our neighborhoods. If we continue to allow this, we are going to be selling our principles.

    Let the Bronx people choose one among their own. Besides about 80% of district #14 residents are immigrants and he is so out touch with this issue that he will not be able to represent this district realistically.

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  35. Lucy, my neighborh next door is a wonderful and honest guy, he volunteers in a soup kitchen, go to every protests there is, lives in the heart of the district for more than 20 years, established a garden, helps everbody. Those are not enough reasons for me to vote for him.

    If we continue voting subjectively and based on personal ties, we are not going to make it out of poverty and tackle the issues, but keep the same corrupted group of people in power.

    Besides, I know the reasons he was selected, having far more qualified candidates locally.
    Fool me once, but not twice.

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  36. Dear Real People's: as long as the Bronx Board did the right thing and follow section 5-304, he could be a registered Democrat. I assume that he was also putting in for a move, first. Anyone can find the Election Law on the web page of the NYC or NYS Boards. Here is the wording:

    "5-304 (3) A change of enrollment received by the board of elections not later than the twenty-fifth day before the general election shall be deposited in a sealed enrollment box, which shall not be opened until the first Tuesday following such general election. Such change of enrollment shall be then removed and entered as provided in this article."

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  37. Because we are in a DEMOCRACY, the majority of the people voted for changing the title of this subjective article. We all agreed that it should read as follows:

    "For the Record: Fernando Cabrera Opens Up his "Pretense" Home, Talks About Switching Political Parties After He Got Busted."

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  38. Funny that Yudelka's name isn't even mentioned in this article, when she was the one that started this raucus. Anyone else find that peculiar?

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  39. Yudelka's name is not mentioned because this reporter is "such a professional reporter" that she wrote a one sided article that is obvisuolly in favor of Fernando Carbrera, the "Bronx Resident"

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  40. Hillary Clinton, who was a republican before becoming a democrat, moved to New York to run for the Senate and she was a wonderful Senator.

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  41. Hillary Clinton was a Republican in the 1960s while she was in college and in her early 20s. She left the party in 1968 and ran for Senate as a democrat 2000.

    Fernando Cabrera was a Republican in July of 2008, when he was already a professional and in his 40s. He left the party in August 2008 and is running for City Council in 2009.

    Don't compare this reverend to the Secretary of State.

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  42. I read that in order run for senator in NY you need to be a resident of New York for 5 years and live in your county for 1 yr. so how did Hilary Clinton become Senator of NY?

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  43. Real People RepresentationJuly 6, 2009 at 12:19:00 PM EDT

    That's what Republican want to do: Copy some of the negative behaviors from Democrats when they convert. Bueno, you are going the wrong way in the party.

    Any wrongdoing done by political leaders does not make it acceptable and moral. And if a reverend wants to copy unacceptable behaviors, then our neighborhood is in danger.

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  44. From a historical prespective, it is clear that this is what has been the SOP in the Bronx for some time. I have written about this on Yorman Nunez's web page: www.nunez09.com/Karen

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  45. Karen, your commentary is SPOT ON. I suggest every reader of this blog, especially those who comment blindly, go to the link you posted and read your analysis.

    That is precisely what is wrong with Bronx politics. The audacity of Fernando Cabrera, and his supporters, enrages me.

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  46. I am very very glad that the Cabrera crew conceded with what the bloggers on this blogs have said. You know you were defending principles that are not in accordance with the Bronx residents' principle.

    Greatly appreciated it.

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  47. adter reading every post in detail, i have some thoughts as well

    in short, to agree with some. many, from fordham to van courtlandt are getting very tired of this conclusion that one can "step into" the district for the purposes of representing that neighborhood. if people were upset that hilary clinton did it to new york, if people were upset that naomi rivera did it in 2004 and if people are upset that espada did it in 2008, then, obviously, we are upset that it is being done again in 2009.

    There are indeed MANY long term residents that could have qualified for Bronx Democratic County consideration. some are even members of our club.
    fernando cabreera has achieved great but short work in the 14th council district and based on my latest visit, he should continue to help his residents in nearby kingsbridge-but many others, like phyllis reid, elizabeth thompson, al chapman, pat woods and others have made kingsbridge beautiful for over 30 years-each

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  48. ms. villareal, you have attained some semblance of redemption by the rewritten article published in the norwood news. there are still some questions that need to be answered, but overall it was a good job.

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  49. It is a shame that the man I have come to know and respect has come to this chapter in his life. Politics and Religion is a bad combination and those who have told him otherwise should be ashamed to use this goodman for their illgotten gains. He once told me that we are a gift to others. I pray he uses his God given gift to see his way back to his flock.

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  50. OK now there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed. All I hear is politics here. I do not hear anything about the people of the community. I hear bashing of character and intent. There is no way to prove what is behind any candidates reason for running in any election. If he meets the criteria then he should be able to run. People need to educate themselves and form there own opinions. HOWEVER! I am one of his church members. I love the pastor and appreciate what he has done for my walk with God. BUT!! in the process of him becoming involved in his politics I feel he has made his church 2ndary to his now found political agenda. If he is elected he will have even less time for his church. I have some questions. You became involved in the community for your congregation, ok, I get that. You wanted more for your youth group and want to take the kids off the street, I applaud you for that. You were trying to get a new building because we had grown as a church. As someone that contributed to the building fund, I want to know where is the new building? I thought we owned the house next door to the church? Construction was supposed to start 2 years ago? I feel, that either your vision and goals have changed, you abandoned something that was a priority and went on to another task or you had no intention of using the funds where they were supposed to go. If you win this election you will abandon the church that has helped you get to where you are! Politics is an evil game, & you are on Satans turf. Be careful not to sell your soul. I hope you do not loose it all!!!

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  51. I agree with the comment above; it's sad because the whole reason Fernando Cabrera is running to begin with, is because of the support of New Life. Had it not been for their support to begin with he would not be where he is at right now regarding politics. Mr. Cabrera would say on occassion that the lord's glory would be manifested through the campaign; however since the campaign started, he has cancelled various cell group meetings. He claims that he wasn't able to travel during the campaign yet he went to cancun last week, and above all now he supports civil union between homosexuals???.... I know several people within his church who have either left the church because they were STRAIGHT living together and he (and his people) were against that; calling it fornication. Now all of the sudden he's ok with gay and lesbien couples living together with benefit?? Give me a break..... Don't compromise your values as a man of God first to have that seat in city council 14. That's not right! Don't turn your back on your church and compromise the belief system that is there to please your precious chairman Heasties and any others who are trying to play you for a puppet. If they are going to support you; come straight forward or don't come at all. As a member of his church I am really dissapointed because I thought this man was a man of integrity who compromises for no one but apparently what he says in his sermons and what he says to the media are two completely different stories.

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  52. People, don't you get it for God's sake. This man is a total liar, a beatiful liar. He may be laughing at his church's goers faces. First he had run for years a malicius campaign (thru his sermons) against so many issues, not only against gays rights and now he's in favor. He raised money for a new building and ¿where is the cash? Today he is running for city council seat and, "we, the people of God" that he's suppoused to care and praise for , are been; one more time put aside because there's some "hot seat" that needs to be gotten at all cost; no matter what it takes; including our money, our new church building, our values, our belief and our entire community. That's what I truly call "Axes of Evil" Mr. Reverend, future, God forbid, city council:Mr. Cabrera.

    ...Give us this day, our daily bread. Forgive our traspasses as we forgive those (Mr. Cabrera) who transpasses against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from (Mr. Cabrera) evil. For thyne is the kimgdom...

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  53. If Fernando Cabrera was in Cancun, Mexico during the last week of petitioning that says a lot about his committment to this race.

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  54. Low blows...neglecting the church. You people are sick. Read your bible...countless men were used of God to reign over the people as government officials.
    And news flash to you...um we are in a recession, do you really think that the resources are available for us to begin a church project at the moment..oh yeah b/c banks are lining up to give money out (sarcasm of course).

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  55. What business is it of yours if he went on vacation? AND...he has people who support him and can handle the fort while he relaxes for a couple of days.
    I think you might need a vacation you sound overly stressed.

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  56. OH WOW! How about you exercise some basic biblical principles 101 and go speak to Cabrera yourself. Instead of posting anonymously...hmmmmmmmmm, smells like a coward to me.

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  57. It's smells like a wolf in sheeps clothing to me. Ummmmm how about a Judas....love your pastor and then bash and make false accusations. Obviously you don't know him and his passion and what he believes. If you so call yourself a "church member."

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  58. FOR YOU COWARDLY "Anonymous" - Who claim to be part of Pastor Cabrera's church should leave his church. You don't even have the guts to speak to him directly face to face. You have go ahead and put this on a blog and drag others with you. You are now accountable to God for those souls you have deceived. You don't deserve to be part of his congregation.

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  59. LOL, anonymous calling anonymous cowards for posting anonymous! at least I respect that person for coming clean under all the pressure he or she may be experiencing... Shame on you guys. Before bashing that person let's see if you can answer that persons questions...
    What is it that Rev Cabrera preaches about abortion?
    Is it true that rev cabrera doesn't condone even straight people who are in a relationship to live together if not married?
    If the Cabrera camp can answer these instead of attacking the person who brought it up, then maybe the situation can be better. Paper tigers talking about wolves in sheeps clothing...

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  60. Thank you! Finally someone with brains understood my comments. Have you ever considered I did go to Pastor with questions and didn't quite get a real anwer? I am just wondering if the people of NLO realize that if he gets this nomination, he would not be there for us the way he is now. Do you know that it would be a full time job? I would just like HIM to clear up and let us know where we will stand with him after elections? Just be honest with your people.

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  61. Sorry, you didn't go to Pastor if you had you wouldn't still be confused. Asking others to "clear" your questions is unfair. Because people will give you their version of it and if they are just as confused as you, you will continue to judge his heart. And what makes you think that pastor will not attend to NLO if he gets elected? For the last 20 yrs. he has worked a fulltime job, raised a family, managed to get his masters and doctoral degree and still managed to run a church full time. This church was build from the ground up .... with no assistance from anyone. So I am not sure what you mean he will not be able to attend the people of NLO when he has proven to have done it is the last (almost) 21 years? Sorry you do not convince me and those whom you have tried to spread doubt in the people of NLO. If you feel that Pastor will not be attend to your needs anymore, maybe it's time for you to move on. New Life is not for everyone, and sometimes your out grow a church. If you feel that there is nothing there more for you move on. And I pray that you find a church, that will meet your needs.

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  62. That still doesn't answer the claims... Can ANYONE get an answer since he is so "clear" on these issues to you that "know".... Have you yourself asked him for a clear answer? Before talking about who outgrows what church and what he has done for the last 21 years, try answering the questions posted above. From post above...
    What is it that Rev Cabrera preaches about abortion?

    Is it true that rev cabrera doesn't condone even straight people who are in a relationship to live together if not married?

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  63. Baez is a no show, so they say, but at least she has shown some results in the community. Cabrera switched parties and moved into the bronx in 2009 (Espada-esque), he is confUSING his congregation, has no history in leadership or politics, he is an opportunist to the core and an outsider...where are the results, where is the evidence he can do the job, I don't see it. Tapia ?????? at least she is from the district, has some experience and hasn't lied to us like the Rev has. Slim pickings but I am going with Tapia

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  64. This is so sad. even if everything they say about Cabrera is not true there is still confusion and chaos in his home camp about abortion, gays and the race..in a church at that. Is this how he will run an office if he gets elected? Likely that he will. I think the post above about answering the claims is a good one. If the claims are answered than there will be no more confusions, just the facts is what we need... Is there some reason why the claims cant be addressed. My guess is even his own supportes dont know where he stands. Until we get answers I cant vote for a questionable candidate laike Cabrera. I visited that church the whole place is sad. Heastie and Faulkner nust be sick

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  65. From the article above:

    For the record, Cabrera says he supports civil unions for homosexuals but not legal marriage (same as Obama); he supports abortion only in cases of rape or violence (unlike Obama who is decidedly pro-choice): VERY SAD TO HEAR THIS FROM A REVEREND. IF HE CANT STAND FOR WHAT HE SAYS BELIEVES NOW WHAT ABOUT LATER. INTEGRITY OUT THE WINDOW.

    From the article above:

    Cabrera says they moved in last July from Pelham, a suburburban town just northeast of the Bronx. THAT'S A STRAIGHT UP LIE. ASK HIS NEIGHBORS AND HOS CONGREGATION. INTEGRITY OUT THE WINDOW AGAIN.

    If it’s not true Cabrera, set the record straight publicly. Stop hiding behind your anonymous blogging obviously blinded parishoners.

    Heastie, you been had (Democrat, what a joke,LOL)

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  66. To all those bragging about the Cabrera's Working Families Party endorsement, the WFP has OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN its support of the lying reverend. And by doing so, they prove that they are working in the best interests of the community.

    Fernando Cabrera is a lying Republican from Westchester and he WILL NOT be elected in the BRONX.

    THE BRONX IS NOT FOR SALE.

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  67. did they say why they withdrew

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  68. i'm assuming it's because he's a republican who is not from the district he wants to represent. whatever the case, this puts a huge hole, in his already shaky credibility.

    there are also rumblings that 32bj will do the same come monday. cabrera is in trouble.

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  69. This guy Timothy Tapia is a straight up idiot. This is what the educational system is producing??? your school should should be ashamed, you need Writing 101. Do yourself and your pastor a favor and stop posting, but if you are please stick to the issue. Your Pastoe was a republican and then changed but at best concealed it. If party does not matter and he is trusting God, then why did he change parties? Second, everyone knows that he just moved into his Bronx residence. Timothy T be honest, since he can't, and tell us when he moved in, not when he purchased but when he moved in, if you don't know ask him. Don't be so quick to support a liar, if he can lie right in your face now, what makes you beleive that he won't do it later. The real issue is integrity and honesty, neither one of which he has shown. And by the way, it's God who heals not Pastors...or is he lying to you about that too

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  70. Anyone wondering where the Bronx Dem Party leader stands on this. Word is he is very upset about being bamboozled himself. I can't beleive that he endorsed Cabrera knowing about all this issues. Heastie must be so embarrased right now...

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  71. Cabrera hasn't lived in the Bonx, he has spent at least the last 10 years or so in Pelham. Ask the congregants of his church. He made the move in May '09 when Espada got busted. Let's keep it real. By the way not speaking English well shouldn't exclude you from a race and doesn't mean a person is not competent, if it did Cabrera would be out himself, this guy can't speak or write either. Let's stick to the issues. Party lines, residency problems, past experience in politics, certainly not issues in the Tapia or Baez camp, sorry Cabrera supporters but these are glaring problems in the Cabrera camp. He may be a nice guy, but that's not why I vote for a person. He has integrity issues that are clear, unless of course lying about where you have lived is OK.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=66972&start=0&tstart=0

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  72. I love Pastor Cabrera! He's definitely going to win

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  73. Wow, another person posting as me (Richie Rich) I left these blogs alone a LONG time ago, and I definately didn't post the above. Please,
    whoever just used my name here, don't do that. It's just not right and could lead to misinformation. I'm begging you not to do it. Thanks in advance...

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  74. Also, if you can trace back any other postings i've done on other blogs you would see that I posted through my Blogger account as Richie Rich (just to confirm that I am "Richie Rich"

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  75. So Richie Rich the real one, you are saying, even though you did not post the last article...that you are not for CABRERA!

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  76. Richie Rich??????????? I guess you are not! What do you fear? Ah the fact that you are working behind the scenes for the other side?

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  77. Look, any question you ask me is going to be a pull in a direction I am NOT trying to be led- I signed in August 21st, made my comment and signed off.

    I wish I knew who you were (anonymous 1 & 2) because you know you wouldn't dare say anything about fear in my face- I invite you to... and as long as you post as anonymous and not give your identity, there's nothing I can do or say about it.

    As far as saying that I work for "the other side behind the scenes" Please don't take it there. The "other side" I work for is God, my immediate family, and my business (in that order). You clearly aren't that close to me or know me well to even say what you are saying to me.

    To sum it all up, those that are important to me know enough about me to know where I stand, and if you don't AND are important to me- i'm an email and/or a phone call away (if you have either).

    (anonymous#2) YOU ARE EXTRA SOFT FOR YOUR COMMENT! Other side implies that you are on a side- so if there is something you need to say, tell me when and how and it can happen.

    Once again, this blog is not about me, it's about the candidates and their race. I want NO part of a blog battle. Stop with the immaturity...

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  78. this is too funny - do you really expect Cabrera to support gay marriage or abortion? Remember this is the guy who went to Liberty University, the school started by that religious nut job Jerry Falwell.

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  79. Debates, I thought were intended to clear up the issues. Cabrera did not give a straight answer or any answer at all to the 2 most important issues, residency and party affiliation. Smooth talking pastor has his congregation fooled (sadly) but please dont be fooled by his smooth talk. He has gall to pretend to "represent" this district...that's a joke! just like he is.

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  80. The comment above is true, why not just set the record straight and move on. He moved in to his current residence in May 09. Anyone who continues to support this guy is a liar just like he is. Cabrera you are a Pastor, stop making the Rev title look bad.

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  81. I'm so disgusted with all the comments i just read. Especially those who say that they have been church members of NLO... wow! this is what betrayl in the making JUDAS in real life. Not that i'm suprize because we are in the flesh and in the world of deception all day everyday. I'm sure these are the two that petition with us, sat in our meetings, was up the Pastor ass excuse me but it is what it is, and now is up in here trying to bash him and his whole family and congregation. Listen if your not happy in our church like someone else mention above move on... keep your comments between you and the Devil yo! You said the Pastor is in Satan turf no you are my brother or sister whoever you are anonymous. Your the coward see how i have the balls that hang high mind you to post my real name. So you can come at me if you want cause words slide off of me and i laugh at the stupidity oh... and by the way you tried to say that one of the poster needed 101 in writing.. while you also mispelled Pastor (Pastoe) oohh watch out. LOL

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  82. Bottom line is that no matter what you or anyone post up in here,the bottom line is that Mr. Fernando Cabrera has his true supporters, he has who needs to be there and will be till the end and if you dont' know well now you know Fernando Cabrera will be the next NYC Bronx Counselman; so all of yous will have to eat all those stupid comments left here because you just have this need to quote on quote speak your mind, ahhhhhhh please a quien....get a life because apparently the life you claim you have with your family and etc is not doing it for you if you have to sit here for hours everyday leaving negative comments and you call yourself a child of god.... rebuke you in the name of Jesus.

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  83. True NLO, I hope that comment wasn't directed towards me (as I am the only person mentioning my family and other etc's)

    Evelyn - [I'm sure these are the two that petition with us] those are your words- I petitioned with you- are you talking about Tati and I? just wondering?

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  84. Hi Richie, how are you? first and formost i'm directing that to whoever that anonymous who also wrote a similar comment... I wasn't directing anything towards you Richie, are you also posting here anonymously? an anonymous blogger posted something similar and that is who I'm directing that too. And there are a few that has petition that are slaudering the Pastor and putting his personal business in here and if they felt like that towards him they should be woman or man enough to confront him. cause if they really know Pastor they know he is approachable and will hear you out... as oppose to turning on him in this way... i feel that is cowardly, not godly at all, and i have No Respect for that individual as a person, as they also mention that they are a member of NLO and that the Pastor helped them in the walk with god but they turn around and do this dirty and anonymously wow! How manly and womanly is that? But no Richie it wasn't directed towards you and Tati by the way give her my regards.

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  85. I wouldn't call those people cowardly, they, like maybe a couple of
    others from NLO have valid concerns about this campaign- and are
    probably posting anonymously to avoid the attacks from other NL'ers...
    I believe those people have met with Fernando and are just not happy
    with the answers given to them. So let's not jump to call people
    Judus, but Instead embrace the concerns and deal with the issues- you
    guys get out of control on these blogs and speak blindly- I don't even
    care who wins anymore, I don't rely on any of them. Let's talk about
    disgusting and review the postings by NL'ers- just read it and ask
    yourselves how you all sound.
    Disgusting is me bringing up these issues of homosexuality and
    abortion to his attention and getting a half winded answer... It's
    having Fernando telling people I am a gossiper... It's Elvia and Jon
    Jon, Josh and God knows who else telling people that I am a spy for
    the other side, lol. It's the congregation shifting moral beliefs over
    night because of "loyalty". It's me IM'ing Fernando on gchat to speak
    and Lissette responding for him... It's me text messaging Fernando and
    asking him about this rumor and him not responding... It's him
    skipping out of service a little early the other day, maybe to avoid
    confrontation with me, I don't know. Ask any of them, anything I just
    mentioned and see what they say. So let's not talk about Judus here,
    and trust me I can go on.
    Sadly, these blogs do almost nothing to a persons vote- so I'm not
    hurting anyone- and truthfully, Fernando will most likely win, which
    is good for him I guess. You NL'ers here pick on people who won't
    defend themselves but to a person like me it's smiles in my face and
    "no, no, I wasn't talking about you Richie".

    Before you guys (you should know who you are) take the sty out of
    someones eye, remember about the log in your own. Nonetheless, enjoy
    your victory next week- and ummm, have a great party- but most of all-
    leave my name out of your dealings, I left quietly and the "crew" and
    Pastors had to throw dirt on my name. Stop now before it gets any
    worst for you all.

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  86. You know Richie that is your opinion on what you write up in here, just like I have mines, I could really care less of others concerns at this point in time honestly. As what i gathered and recieve from you in this response, is that you have issues with the Pastor that you and only you can deal with and straighten out with him and if he doesn't respond maybe because he is too busy right now with the campaign and is doing what is necessary right now to win this campaign and getting back to your questions at this time is not his priority but, I'm sure he will get back to you in the right time. But you know what's real and please take this whatever way you want to take it, but is like the saying goes if it doesn't apply let it fly, and i didn't write my opinion or my comment for YOU Richie to respond and give me feed back because apparently i must of hit something when YOU are the only one responding??? And you are being very disrespectful when i never not once disrespected you. All i'm hearing from you is? you justifying and rationalizing and defending what others feel, why are YOU the voice?? to what everyone is going thru or feeling? Is just a question that i'm wondering?? Ain't no one here ever mentioned your name and trust me when i tell you, YOU are not important to me; and let me speak for me, to have your name in mouth,,, never did and why would I start now. This remark that you said"leave your name out of my dealing... of my dealings what are you talking about????? And all that treat my brother before it gets worst for you all... lol, you got jokes right??? you must be really kidding me? Please Do me the Favor I'm begging you to let this be the last time you threaten me. I dont' care who else you go around threating but dont' you ever threaten me again... And I will leave it at that! Because I'm not going to do this back and forth thing with you. I'm better than that. God bless you and yours and really Richie no need for anymore feed back, Please Respect that, Have a good evening..thank you. oh and the last thing i want to respond to you,Is that you's was not the only two who petition with me, I just felt the need to clarify that??? in closing

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  87. This is not only going your direction...to you and the others is the part where you guys call people cowardly and disgusting- your defending him without knowing the other side of the problem. It's not disrespectful, it's being defensive, I am defending those people that you and others are attacking. It's not a personal issue either, I think you and others are being very wrong and I am voicing my concern. It's not a problem for you to name call to those who posted but I come around and type to you guys saying you are being wrong and vicious. Go on and attack Maria and her no showing, or Yudelka and her inexperience, but don't touch the Lords sheep- and don't judge them either without knowing all the details. Proverbs 27:5 says better is open rebuke than hidden love. I am rebuking your actions, and you arent the only one.

    Also, you guys (plural) talk about "why don't you confront him or bring the problem to his attention" A few people have. Too busy to address the issue but not to meet with my leaders and tell them that I am gossiping.. thats not opinion thats fact.. or not too busy to try and convince my close friends that I am a spy.. thats not opinion, thats fact.
    You are taking this thing personally and its aimed at a crowd much bigger than you. I have not disrespected you, or even found myself angry with you, but the behavior that you are using on this blog is wrong and reminds me of the rest of the gang. So to make it a little more clear... I am not threatining you, you dont have anything to lose here, thats obvious. I am threatening the team of people who keep my name in their dealings and keep bashing people who are standing up for themselves... I confronted most of them a week ago, they know who they are. Theres a lot more to this you dont know, and I imagine thats why you are taking it like its pointed at you alone.

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  88. ah please whatever Richie knock yourself out if that is what's going to make you FEEL better... I Really dont' have the time and energy to feed into your negativity. Really Have a good life i wish you well where ever you go and you take with you.... god bless yous.... I don't care to hear anymore of this nonsense really good byeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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  89. This stream of conversation really is unproductive...it's obvious one person has been hurt and the other has her own blind agenda. What's important are the facts. Ramos response dated September 7, 2009 10:24:00 AM EDT, I think were wrong,the two comments above yours whether anonymous or not were valid. If you support and beleive provide the answers to the comments. How long has he lived at Sedgwick when did he change parties. Just because a person disagrees does not make them a Judas and by the way if you disagree with Richie Rich that's OK too but he is entitled to his opinion just like you are, that's why we need to deal with the facts...so what are the real answers to the residency issue, the party change, and how do you feel about a pastor that supports homosexuality and abortion Evelyn?

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  90. blind agenda i don't think so sweetie, To be honest with you anonymous, I could care less when he moved to sedgwick or when he changed parties???? that is not my business nor is it my concern. what's my business and my concern is that he's in the running and I think he will be an outstanding canidate... but again like you mention that is your opinion and i have mines. To answer your questions about a pastor that support homosexuality and abortions? Is the same way I feel about the Pastors who marries the gay and lesbians??? To each is own...who am I? What give me the right? The only one who can judge will be God in judgement day not you, Richie, myself or anyone. And YES it's VERY MUCH my opinion that there are Judas in the making in living colors not because they are disagreeing,lol, it's beyond disagreements. Just like you mention; "quote" "unquote"(your words)"he is entitled to his opinion just like you are, Dito! on the money!
    Have a good evening. God bless you too.

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  91. Evelyn, I am not angry or being defensive please do not take it that way. You seem to be a strong supporter therefore I assume you know him and his business well, otherwise, why would you support him? Whether YOU care or not about the residency or party issue really is not the point. The point is he says he moved in to Sedgwick in 2008, but there is evidence out there that he moved in to Sedgwick in May of 2009. If that is true then he is lying and his integrity is in question. When and why he changed parties may not be important to you but it is imortant to the people who don't "know" him like you do and want an explanation before they cast a vote. Honestly why would a lifelong democrat like myself vote for a person who was a lifelong republican and just recently changed? Apparently I am not the only one who wants to know about these issues as they were the first 2 questions he was asked during the debate, which by the way he never answered. Gary Axelbank thought it important, the 2 questioners thought it imortant as well and I beleive the general public think they are important issues too. Integrity may not matter to you but it does to others. If you plan to vote for a candidate these things must be your "business and your concern". If you do not know the answers I think it is wrong of you to put others down who want to know. You say you beleive he will be a good candidate, why is that? Is there experience in politics, how does he run his church, what previous political offices has he held, where is the leadership experience? Please inform me. I assume you are a NLer and therefore a Christian. Your comments about abortion and gay marriage therefore surprise me. "To each his own" is not what Christianity is about, if it was there would be chaos in church, the bible I think is clear on what God's position on these 2 abominations is. I am a life long catholic, not a Protestant, but I don't think that makes a difference, we beleive in the same God and live life by the same guidelines. So based on what I have read in your posts, it seems as if you dont care if he is a liar (residency), what his motives are (change of parties) or whether he has compromised himself and his position as a reverend (abortion and gay marriage). Because you support him so strongly, I am sure that you have the answers that can put us all at ease about these issues. If you don't have the answers you should be careful about who you support.

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  92. To Evelyn ("the genius", huge sarcasm) Ramos...Writing 101 has to do with the grammar of his posts, (I've seen other of Tapia's posts in other blogs),not with typos which almost every post includes. BTW, after reading your stuff, looks like you should join him in that class

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  93. No Christian here but got ER back hear that!September 13, 2009 at 12:25:00 AM EDT

    Who the fuck asked your fucking opinion anonymous from sept. 11th.. how about that! for being genius, huge sarcasm etc... Motherfuckers up in here better watch what the fuck they cause i will be your worse fucking nitemare. You piece of shit tryin to get in a convo that you don't need to stick your two fucking cent in. Ain't nothing christian about me i will put a hole in some ass in a heartbeat. That why you need to be real fucking careful who you to talk up in here. Anonymous my ass i will find your fucking ass hear that!!!! Keep your fucking stupid comments to your fucking self.

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  94. Wow, how sad. "No Christian" above is really taking it to heart, you have some serious anger issues. You better get some help for that temper, it's going to get you in trouble some day. And by the way your language is really inappropriate for this forum, but it does tell me alot about you, the immaturity shines so brightly. For the record though, it was Evelyn who meddled in my business. My original post was directed at Timothy Tapia not to her, then she decided to comment on it. Maybe she should mind her business and you wont get so angry,since you are so busy fighting her battles.

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  95. You know Anonymous/aka Richie Rich why don't you stop this BS and let's get to the exact nature that these two people are you! For real, for real. Let me tell you how i came to this conclusion: On September 8, 2009 11:53:00 PM EDT
    Richie these are your words and I quote"
    Sadly, these blogs do almost nothing to a persons vote-

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  96. CONTINUATION FROM MY LAST POST:::::so I'm not
    hurting anyone- and truthfully, Fernando will most likely win, which
    is good for him I guess. You NL'ers here pick on people who won't
    defend themselves but to a person like me it's smiles in my face and
    "no, no, I wasn't talking about you Richie".
    NOW ON THIS OTHER DATE; September 11, 2009 7:50:00 PM EDT ANONYMOUS WROTE: QUOTE YOUR WORDS:
    Is there experience in politics, how does he run his church, what previous political offices has he held, where is the leadership experience? Please inform me. I assume you are a NLer and therefore a Christian. NOW THE KEY WORD HERE ON RICHIE RICH N ANONYMOUS IS NLer " What a coincidence". Let me bust your bubble" There are never any coincidence this is a fact!

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  97. MORE CONTINUATION:So now let me get to my exact nature here and first thing i like to say Richie and Anonymous is that this is an open forum for anyone to post/comment on any comment/post presented in here and it is my business as a member of NLO to comment and come in defense of my Pastors in question first and foremost. Especially when the person posting the comment is or was now past tent a NLO member themselves, now I'm definetly going to take this comment personal and I won't mind my business so now you BOTH excuse me for my boldness. Now continuing my posting you asked me to come forth with some answers since i support him so strongly was again your choice of words and I did get answers that i am bring back to you only simply because you asked me? not because i am obligated to, And this will be my last post in this forum because i have a victory party to get ready for.
    But let me first address NO Christian for coming to my defense wanting to have my back, I strongly and really appreciate you wanting to have my back sweetie but i have to agree unfortunately with anonymous this isn't the forum for such profanity.. I think for him to say you have issues is alittle far fetch because everyone including myself all have issues. But i wanted to let (No christian) know that i dont' need you and anyone to have my back. I have the ultimate and the only one to have my back and that Jesus!! Amen! so now to answer your questions which i believe is 4 of them.
    You said that you made some attempts to get your answers from the Pastors and that they didn't get back to you. I got this response to answer your question. There was a couple of attempts to meet but the last arrangement was on you to meet up with the pastor to meet and YOU never came thru. Yes you send messages to the Headquaters IM as oppose to directly connecting with the Pastor himself and you got Lisette because she was the one in the office at the time and you know because you worked with us, that in that office the pastor is rarely there taking IM or messages he has his personal phone which you have and direct email which you also have.

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  98. now to your second question about gays and abortions. He is supporting the civil rights law. Not the gay and abortion pursay. Let's take this scenario. If someone comes to the Pastor that one is pregant and wants to have an abortion his response will not be to go have an abortion that is not what he is preaching nor promoting and that is still his belief. However he will hear you out and you will have the ultimate choice to do what you going to do regardless him telling you not to have the abortion. Now as far as gays and lesbian he is not promoting and supporting marriages nor is he preaching that in service or his campaign. again he is for civil rights law!!!! that simple.
    next question. why he changed from republican to democratic and he is still republican??? Listen the same reason other parties changes he is not the first and he won't be the last. And you know cause you claim to be in this politics life for as many years you claim you have, you should know that it takes anyone who changes parties a whole year before they become whatever they changin party too. So what's the problem he is now a democratic. And in order for him to have gotten this far he had to present documents and legals papers to run and he provided those legal papers or else he wouldn't be running or have gotten as far as he has in this campaign or the support he is getting from all these endorsements. The support that he's getting by other higher up political in office already. Now the last answer to his residency. There are proof that he moved into his sedgwick apartment in 2008 so i have no idea who you been getting your information from but your's aren't accurate. And I've come to the conclusion of this forum and I got back to you with your answers and if still not to your satifaction then you need to do what you got to do and face off once he is in office. Good luck and God bless you and it was a pleasure to honor you with this research. Take care

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  99. My, my, my it's been very busy up here since I last logged in. But you go girl (Evelyn Ramos) I command you in your forwardness and you taking a stand for your Pastor, church and congregation. AMEN. I couldn't have put it in better words. I hope these other posters and commenters gets the hit on what you just said. Because it was very simply explained and straight forward. wow that was deep. thanks for sharing that.

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  100. Ignorance truly is bliss...

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  101. Wow, you really are all over the place- re read my postings, I have no problems with his residency- I dont care, I have no problem with his party switch, I dont care. Those issues were there when I first helped with the campaign, why would it bother all of a sudden? A Year later? I had a problem with his stance on Civil Unions and abortion. I have my emails between him and I and it is very clear what I am concerned about. We both had failed attempts to meet, I went in person last to speak with him and I sent a text message to which he never responded. I also asked his son Josh if he was up and he said no (it was late of course, so whatever)I wanted to meet as a formality, it's not like he is going to change his new found and justified beliefs. We left off on a bad note with a sarcastic response via email (from him), I didn't get back to the issue until I saw some stuff written about me on this blog and heard all the rumors going on about me at New Life.

    Moving on, what sense does it make for me to post anonymously AND by my blog name if I am coming out so open through my blogger name? Thats not even logical... Does it even cross your mind that people are just repeating the term NL'er- theres no science to that... If you want to disrespect me and come out that way,please spare the people on this post- you have been to my home, you should have my phone number- do it there. Your like in your late 40's, out of respect for you as an older lady I wouldn't call you to beef or to defend myself on the level you are taking it to. BUt you are welcome on your end if you want to handle it that way. Feel what you gotta feel, but dont get all emotional here when people get at you if you are here doing the same thing- that makes no sense. About his answer to homosexual civil unions (not rights) and abortion. You just don't get it. Not to get into a theological debate, but just reading this actual article above is enough for a Christian (or maybe just me) to question him. I didn't run anyone out of the church, I asked him, I searched for guidance, I went to a few close friends to see if it was just me- and when I saw the issue as a done deal, my wife and I never returned to NL. It is a very different doctrine than what has been practiced at NL (I been there for about 5 years, how about you? 5 months maybe?)And when a few of us became confused at the article above and questioned it the attacks began there, the rumors that Tati and I are spies for Maria...It is a big concern for those of us who care enough about what and where we are fed spiritually- WE don't need the type of abuse you guys(plural) are dishing out- it is hurtful, and annoying. But one relavent fact about this isue and the 14th CD is if he could lie to me, to a congregation, spread rumors about a person (me) who he would come to with the freshest updates about our progress even before the rest of the team would know, then imagine what else he is capable of. None of what I wrote this last week would have EVER made it to this blog before someone above posted acting as me. This has truly been another very unproductive post on my end, I apologize to the other readers who aren't joyed by the "entertainment". We were told months ago not to contact Fernando directly because he would be consumed with studying policy- I relayed messages, I waited to meet an hour with him inside the church- he never showed, I showed up at the church (very hard for me to do) he skipped out 15 minutes before service ended- highly unusual to those that know him- and yes he did see me, who didn't, everyone thinks I am a spy, people swarmed to me to shake my hands and smile. I text him to ask about the rumors him and his wife are spreading, no response.Fernando, you get google alerts on this post as well,and I know SO many people have already told you about my postings. Call me, return my text.

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  102. by ignorance i meant TrueNLO

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  103. how much are you getting for kissing ass anonymous,, wow... kissy kissy, bravo, get a star for being all up in there must taste good since you have so much to say and say very little for everytime someone says something you always got some slick caca to say...stop kissing culito it's beneath you anonymous...lol lol lol you make me laugh cause your so pathetic... how about that for being so ignorant.

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  104. TrueNLO you typed a lot of words but you never said anything. Your ignorance continues

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  105. why is it so important for you to continue to read my typed alot of words like you put it; apparently you must MUST i repeat be intrigued by my ignorance words that you continue to read them and feel the need to respond. Answer yourself that question Anonymous LOL LOL ur to funny? OH by the way... the Republican, liar, no bronxer,will support gay n lesbian... WON!!!!!!!! IN your faces Haterssssssssssssssssss!!!! Because when it's all said and done God and only God has the ultimate VOICE! And he Spoke very clearly last nite at the Primaries, so with that have a blessed day.

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  106. Why do you say that was God's doing?

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  107. Sweet Jesus! You all need to stop.. this is pointless madness. Let Richie deal with this issue in private with his pastor, whenever that is.. there's nothing anyone can say or do to rectify this misunderstanding between them. If you're a Christian, "NLer" or not, you need to remember that we do not wage war as this world does.. our weapons are not carnal (blogs, bashing, gossips etc.) Politics w/o purpose brings out the worst in people.. the people rejoice when the righteous rule.. but the people lose if the righteous lose God's purpose and passion. God has given us all our own political ground to fight for.. our own districts, communities, blocks, etc. How bout we start with our neighbor.. fighting for them in love.. dont lose that! There is some SERIOUS repenting to be done on both sides of this equation..

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